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06/16/10 at 06:21 AM Reply with quote #1 Many people are locked into the, ‘this is the way we have always done things” mentality. These types are set in their ways without any concept of why they do those things. The Pharisees pushed the Jewish law about the Sabbath to ridicules extremes that God had never intended. The Gospel of Mark records Jesus saying that, “the Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath.” (Mk 2: 27) There are a lot of people who virtually worship the rule rather that seeking to understand why such rules or laws were made. God never wanted man to be slaves to the rule but rather for the law to free mankind. The problem was that without a change from within, the law was powerless to do so and this was why the Pharisees of then and today try to force obedience to tradition.
How does traditionalism blind us to God’s will?
How does having an open heart make us better people and better Christians?
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Zecharia
06/16/10 at 02:39 PM Reply with quote #2 Quote:
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CandC How does traditionalism blind us to God’s will?
How does having an open heart make us better people and better Christians?
If rituals and ceremonies could have done the job there would have never been the need for Jesus to have suffered and died. He wouldn't have even needed to come to earth at all, but traditions only fool people into thinking that they are ok with God. Praying to Mary is a good example, Catholics think that somehow she is closer to God, but they forget that Jesus is God. So, yes traditionalism does blind of to the will of God and having an open heart is necessary to grow in the Lord. Without an open heart, I don't see how anyone could really be a Christian. Loading...
DonnaMM
06/16/10 at 04:58 PM Reply with quote #3 Great video, it's amazing how watching something like this lets me pick up on a message that I missed in reading or hearing this passage. Jesus said, "I ask you, which is lawful on the Sabbath: to do good or to do evil, to save life or to destroy it?" What never hit me before was that the evil that Jesus was talking about was that of doing nothing. A lot of people think if they aren't doing any direct harm to someone, that is neither evil or good. Jesus seems to be saying that to have the power to do good and instead one does nothing, that is evil. I think that this is something to really think about. Loading...
DonnaMM
06/16/10 at 05:04 PM Reply with quote #4 Quote:
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CandC How does traditionalism blind us to God’s will?
How does having an open heart make us better people and better Christians?
If rituals and ceremonies could have done the job there would have never been the need for Jesus to have suffered and died. He wouldn't have even needed to come to earth at all, but traditions only fool people into thinking that they are ok with God. Praying to Mary is a good example, Catholics think that somehow she is closer to God, but they forget that Jesus is God. So, yes traditionalism does blind of to the will of God and having an open heart is necessary to grow in the Lord. Without an open heart, I don't see how anyone could really be a Christian. I don't see how praying to a statue of Mary is any different than praying to an idol of any pagan deity. I think that with all the worship of traditions is just another simple attempt to keep ourselves in charge rather than giving it to Jesus. Loading...
Karen
06/16/10 at 09:40 PM Reply with quote #5 Quote:
Originally Posted by DonnaMM Great video, it's amazing how watching something like this lets me pick up on a message that I missed in reading or hearing this passage. Jesus said, "I ask you, which is lawful on the Sabbath: to do good or to do evil, to save life or to destroy it?" What never hit me before was that the evil that Jesus was talking about was that of doing nothing. A lot of people think if they aren't doing any direct harm to someone, that is neither evil or good. Jesus seems to be saying that to have the power to do good and instead one does nothing, that is evil. I think that this is something to really think about.
I agree, there is something about this type of video format that makes the Bible come to life. Loading...
DonnaMM
06/16/10 at 11:51 PM Reply with quote #6 Quote:
Originally Posted by Karen I know that some will object to the rest on the grounds that it could be interpreted as works.
That all depends on whether you are talking about works to gain salvation or works as a product of salvation. James 2: 18 says, "show me your faith without the works, and I will show you my faith by my works." The thing is if works don't follow faith then there probably isn't any real faith to begin with. Loading...
Karen
06/17/10 at 01:02 AM Reply with quote #7 Quote:
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Originally Posted by Karen I know that some will object to the rest on the grounds that it could be interpreted as works.
That all depends on whether you are talking about works to gain salvation or works as a product of salvation. James 2: 18 says, "show me your faith without the works, and I will show you my faith by my works." The thing is if works don't follow faith then there probably isn't any real faith to begin with. I was just saying that some people have mental block because of some unscrupulous preachers making an issue of faith vs. works. These are usually the same people who believe that no matter what someone does, they can't lose their salvation. They twist the Bible to try to prove that bias and in the end preach a lie. Loading...
Marty
06/17/10 at 08:38 PM Reply with quote #8 Quote:
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CandC How does traditionalism blind us to God’s will?
How does having an open heart make us better people and better Christians?
If rituals and ceremonies could have done the job there would have never been the need for Jesus to have suffered and died. He wouldn't have even needed to come to earth at all, but traditions only fool people into thinking that they are ok with God. Praying to Mary is a good example, Catholics think that somehow she is closer to God, but they forget that Jesus is God. So, yes traditionalism does blind of to the will of God and having an open heart is necessary to grow in the Lord. Without an open heart, I don't see how anyone could really be a Christian. The big lie that the Devil would have people believe is that Jesus was an ordinary man and not God. The answer to all life's needs is Jesus, only Jesus, without Him we will always fail. The old law could only force change from the out side and because of that it failed. Jeremiah 31:33 tells of the salvation that Jesus would bring to the world. "declares the LORD. "I will put my law in their minds and write it on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people." The Lord was telling us that He would change us from the inside. Loading...
Jessica
07/19/10 at 12:42 AM Reply with quote #9 Quote:
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CandC How does traditionalism blind us to God’s will?
How does having an open heart make us better people and better Christians?
If rituals and ceremonies could have done the job there would have never been the need for Jesus to have suffered and died. He wouldn't have even needed to come to earth at all, but traditions only fool people into thinking that they are ok with God. Praying to Mary is a good example, Catholics think that somehow she is closer to God, but they forget that Jesus is God. So, yes traditionalism does blind of to the will of God and having an open heart is necessary to grow in the Lord. Without an open heart, I don't see how anyone could really be a Christian. The big lie that the Devil would have people believe is that Jesus was an ordinary man and not God. The answer to all life's needs is Jesus, only Jesus, without Him we will always fail. The old law could only force change from the out side and because of that it failed. Jeremiah 31:33 tells of the salvation that Jesus would bring to the world. "declares the LORD. "I will put my law in their minds and write it on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people." The Lord was telling us that He would change us from the inside. Well put, too many Christians think that once they've been saved that they don't have to do anything any more. If we are being true to our faith, we have to let Jesus live in every moment of our lives. Loading...
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08/04/10 at 03:12 AM Reply with quote #10 Quote:
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CandC How does traditionalism blind us to God’s will?
How does having an open heart make us better people and better Christians?
If rituals and ceremonies could have done the job there would have never been the need for Jesus to have suffered and died. He wouldn't have even needed to come to earth at all, but traditions only fool people into thinking that they are ok with God. Praying to Mary is a good example, Catholics think that somehow she is closer to God, but they forget that Jesus is God. So, yes traditionalism does blind of to the will of God and having an open heart is necessary to grow in the Lord. Without an open heart, I don't see how anyone could really be a Christian. The big lie that the Devil would have people believe is that Jesus was an ordinary man and not God. The answer to all life's needs is Jesus, only Jesus, without Him we will always fail. The old law could only force change from the out side and because of that it failed. Jeremiah 31:33 tells of the salvation that Jesus would bring to the world. "declares the LORD. "I will put my law in their minds and write it on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people." The Lord was telling us that He would change us from the inside. Well put, too many Christians think that once they've been saved that they don't have to do anything any more. If we are being true to our faith, we have to let Jesus live in every moment of our lives. Right, we mustn't forget that we are God's ambassadors to the world, it's through us that the world sees Jesus, if we aren't showing Jesus though our lives, how is the world going to see Him? Loading...
Karen
05/07/11 at 08:43 AM Reply with quote #11 Quote:
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CandC How does traditionalism blind us to God’s will?
How does having an open heart make us better people and better Christians?
If rituals and ceremonies could have done the job there would have never been the need for Jesus to have suffered and died. He wouldn't have even needed to come to earth at all, but traditions only fool people into thinking that they are ok with God. Praying to Mary is a good example, Catholics think that somehow she is closer to God, but they forget that Jesus is God. So, yes traditionalism does blind of to the will of God and having an open heart is necessary to grow in the Lord. Without an open heart, I don't see how anyone could really be a Christian. The big lie that the Devil would have people believe is that Jesus was an ordinary man and not God. The answer to all life's needs is Jesus, only Jesus, without Him we will always fail. The old law could only force change from the out side and because of that it failed. Jeremiah 31:33 tells of the salvation that Jesus would bring to the world. "declares the LORD. "I will put my law in their minds and write it on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people." The Lord was telling us that He would change us from the inside. Well put, too many Christians think that once they've been saved that they don't have to do anything any more. If we are being true to our faith, we have to let Jesus live in every moment of our lives. Right, we mustn't forget that we are God's ambassadors to the world, it's through us that the world sees Jesus, if we aren't showing Jesus though our lives, how is the world going to see Him? I think that if we are trying to be good Christians there's a good chance that we'll fail. We have to live Jesus, be so in touch with our Lord that He flows out of us without thinking about it. We have to let the Holy Spirit speak though us and that can only happen if we're living Jesus every moment of our lives. That means if we get angry, try to control the tongue, instead of profanity or insulting others we should pray. Pray for God's strength and for that peace that surpasses all understanding. If we should sin, either with profanity or rudeness towards someone else, we should go to them and apologize if possible, but first we should confess to the Lord and repent. Loading...
